[Users] Virtuozzo containers no longer a supported Virtuozzo product !?

Jehan Procaccia IMT jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu
Sat Dec 5 00:49:01 MSK 2020


Great, sound's better this way !, thanks .
to prevent others from miss leading, maybe that note one the page 
https://www.virtuozzo.com/support/all-products/virtuozzo-containers.html
should be extended with your's "The current version of the product with 
Container technology goes under name "Virtuozzo Hybrid Server 7". and a 
link to it .

Regards .

Jehan

Le 04/12/2020 à 21:42, Konstantin Khorenko a écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> > Please note: Virtuozzo Containers for Linux is no longer a supported 
> Virtuozzo product. Users can purchase extended support until September 
> 2020.
>
> please don't panic,
> this sentence is about only old product "VIRTUOZZO CONTAINERS FOR 
> LINUX 4.7",
> this is not about the technology itself surely. :)
>
> The current version of the product with Container technology goes 
> under name "Virtuozzo Hybrid Server 7".
>
> Here you can see the list of products and their lifecycle milestones:
> https://www.virtuozzo.com/support/all-products/lifecycle-policies.html
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>
> Konstantin Khorenko,
> Virtuozzo Linux Kernel Team
>
> On 12/04/2020 11:20 PM, jjs - mainphrame wrote:
>> I hear what you are saying about deploying lxc on any Linux distro. 
>> That is a strong point.
>>
>> But for me it's a good tradeoff. Maybe someday lxc/lxd will reach the 
>> level of openvz, and if so, I'll re-evaluate, but for now I'm fine 
>> with setting up dedicated openvz boxes, as
>> I can deploy any Linux distro in a container, or any OS in a VM.
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Narcis Garcia <informatica at actiu.net 
>> <mailto:informatica at actiu.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     I'm migrating servers from OpenVZ to LXC (by using ctctl) because 
>> I can
>>     deploy LXC on any GNU/Linux distro and archichecture.
>>
>>     BUT: LXC still does not work as optimal as OpenVZ, and OpenVZ is far
>>     more mature than LXC.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Narcis Garcia
>>     El 4/12/20 a les 20:15, jjs - mainphrame ha escrit:
>>     > I think it's just that virtuozzo is no longer supporting the 
>> "containers
>>     > only" solution. The new baseline is "containers and VMs".
>>     >
>>     > I agree they might have made that more clear, but it seems 
>> there's no
>>     > cause for worry. I've done long term testing with lxc/lxd and 
>> after
>>     > various issues, ended up moving all containers to openvz.
>>     >
>>     > The ability to do VMs is a plus, for instance if I have to hold 
>> my nose
>>     > and spin up a windows VM for testing.
>>     >
>>     > Jake
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:06 AM Jehan Procaccia IMT
>>     > <jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu 
>> <mailto:jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu> 
>> <mailto:jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu 
>> <mailto:jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu>>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >     then,  is this a "marketing" miss leading information ? , or
>>     >     Containers (CT) , which are to me the most added value of 
>> virtuozzo
>>     >     technology is to be terminated ?
>>     >     that should be claryfied by virtuozzo staff.
>>     >
>>     >     indeed in
>>     > https://www.virtuozzo.com/products/virtuozzo-hybrid-server.html ,
>>     >     containers => https://www.virtuozzo.com/products/compute.html
>>     >     are mentionned
>>     >     and in
>>     > 
>> https://www.virtuozzo.com/fileadmin/user_upload/downloads/Data_Sheets/Virtuozzo7-Platform-DS-EN-Ltr.pdf
>>     >
>>     >     I hardly defend virtuozzo/openVZ vs proxmox in my community 
>> because
>>     >     of VZ CTs which are supposed by far better than LXC 
>> containers (!?)
>>     >
>>     >     Thanks to prove me right .
>>     >
>>     >     regards .
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     Le 04/12/2020 à 19:48, jjs - mainphrame a écrit :
>>     >>     That looked strange to me, but after looking at their 
>> website, it
>>     >>     seems they're just announcing the end of support for old 
>> product
>>     >>     lines.
>>     >>
>>     >>     It looks like "Virtuozzo Hybrid Server" is basically what 
>> we have
>>     >>     in openvz 7, plus premium features.
>>     >>
>>     >>     Joe
>>     >>
>>     >>     On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Jehan Procaccia IMT
>>     >>     <jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu 
>> <mailto:jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu>
>>     >>     <mailto:jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu 
>> <mailto:jehan.procaccia at imtbs-tsp.eu>>> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>         Hello
>>     >>
>>     >>         defending the added value of virtuozzo containers (CT) 
>> , one
>>     >>         replied me with :
>>     >>
>>     >> 
>> https://www.virtuozzo.com/support/all-products/virtuozzo-containers.html
>>     >>
>>     >>         /*Please note*: Virtuozzo Containers for Linux is no 
>> longer a
>>     >>         supported Virtuozzo product. Users can purchase extended
>>     >>         support until September 2020./
>>     >>
>>     >>         is this serious !?
>>     >>
>>     >>         Please let us know .
>>     >>
>>     >>         Regards .
>>     >>
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