[Users] "Virtuzzo" vs "OpenVZ"

[Sergey Bronnikov]

On 19:14 Mon 03 Aug , Gena Makhomed wrote:
> On 03.08.2015 17:09, Sergey Bronnikov wrote:
> 
> >From source code point of view OpenVZ is an umbrella for OpenVZ legacy,
> >opensourced components from commercial Virtuozzo, CRIU
> >and other mini projects (like LibCT etc).
> 
> >From people point of view OpenVZ is project which consolidates community,
> >opensource code for containers (mentioned above), and brand itself.
> 
> >Virtuzzo 7 is a Linux distribution based on OpenVZ components targeted to
> >everyone who want to get free product with containers and KVM hypervisor from
> >Odin. You can use it even you don't want to pay to Odin.
> 
> Ok, but what is the difference between
> free and open source version of Virtuzzo 7
> and paid version of Virtuzzo 7 from Odin ?

The difference will be in payment additions
which can be installed via yum.

We explained that in articles:
- http://habrahabr.ru/company/parallels/blog/259385/ (Russian)
- http://blog.odin.com/serviceprovider/2015/7/14/coming-soon-a-more-open-platform-for-openvz
(English)


> This is need for ability to make decision:
> Can we in future use open source Virtuozzo version,
> or we need to buy commercial version of Virtuozzo
> or we should migrate from OpenVZ to CentOS7.1+KVM.

Yes, Virtuozzo will be free and based on opensource components.

> Now - separation of features between open source
> and commercial versions of Virtuozzo 7 is not clear.

> As I already understand,
> http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/
> - is home page of commercial version of Virtuozzo,
> I redirected to this page from site virtuozzo.com
> 
> But where is home page of open source version of Virtuozzo?
> From virtuozzo.org and virtuozzo.net I also redirected
> to page http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/
> with description of commercial version of PCS6,
> which also named "Virtuozzo", but version 6.x
> 
> So we have three different things
> with the same name "Virtuozzo":
> 
> 1) "Virtuozzo 6" AKA "legacy Virtuozzo" AKA "PCS 6"
> 2) "Virtuozzo 7" AKA "commercial Virtuozzo 7"
> 3) "Virtuozzo 7" AKA "free/open source Virtuozzo 7"
> 
> As you can see, three different things,
> all three with *one* name "Virtuozzo" - it is confusing.
> 
> And even more confusing, what all these three *different* things
> have the same home page: http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/
> from virtuozzo.com and virtuozzo.org familiar product home pages.
> 
> =========================================================
> 
> >Use one entry point - https://openvz.org if you use free and opensource Virtuozzo
> >and go to http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ if you pay for Virtuozzo
> >and want professional support from Odin.
> 
> Page https://openvz.org/Virtuozzo should be considered
> as home page of "free/open source Virtuozzo 7" product,
> regardless of virtuozzo.org and virtuozzo.net domain names,
> which currently redirects to http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ ?
> 
> >P.S. Yes, there is a bit mess with brands, but why you are aware about brands
> >not about product itself?
> 
> Because, for example, Red Hat now have two different products
> and two different brands, "CentOS" and "Red Hat Enterprise Linux", which,
> however, created from the same source with minimal changes.
> 
> Also, NGINX INC company have two different products,
> "NGINX Plus" - commercial version with paid support
> and "nginx" - free and open source version.
> 
> Home pages also different:
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/rhel
> https://www.centos.org/
> 
> https://www.nginx.com/
> http://nginx.org/
> 
> >>At least it will be very familiar and useful to all nginx users,
> >>both commercial and open source versions of Nginx / Nginx Plus.
> >>
> >>As you probably know - many OpenVZ users are also nginx users,
> >>and inversely: many nginx users are also OpenVZ users - also true.
> >
> >Unexpected fact. Do you have proofs?
> 
> Only common sense.
> 
> Most OpenVZ containers usage - for VDS/VPS hosting providers.
> 
> Most VDS/VPS used for hosting web sites in the internet.
> 
> Most web sites are created using PHP.
> 
> Hosting providers have VDS/VPS with 256 MiB and 512 MiB RAM
> and 0 MiB of swap. Using such VPS/VDS with httpd Apache
> is practically impossible for any reasonable workload.
> 
> So, now it is only one possible variant:
> 
> use nginx + php-fpm for hosting web sites inside VDS/VPS
> with limited amound of RAM.
> 
> Even for CT with 2 GiB or 4 GiB of RAM -
> nginx + php-fpm still the best choice
> for hosting sites created using PHP.
> 
> P.S.
> 
> To minimize impact from old OpenVZ container suspend/resume bug
> https://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2470 I create workaround
> http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-devel/2015-August/007155.html
> And as I can see - this workaround will be accepted in the nginx.

Thanks for good news. I have added that info to bug.

> I hope you don't migrate bugzilla for OpenVZ to different site name,
> for example, strange site https://bugs.openvz.org/browse/OVZ-5587
> and hyperlinks inside nginx sources will be still valid in future.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Gena