<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hi Sergey,<br><br></span><blockquote type="cite"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hello, Volker</span></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On 22:06 Fri 03 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote:<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hi,<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">We are going to release Virtuozzo 7 and OpenVZ 7 not later than this July.<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thank you for your interest and stay tuned!</span></font></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">when I setup VZ 7 beta now, is it possible to upgrade this to the stable<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">release when it's released?</span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to the final one.</span></font></blockquote><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7 afterward it's not possible to upgrade, too?<br><br></span><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It also seems to lack some documentation for my use cases, but I need to start<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">with VZ7 sooner or later.</span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What usecases are you talking about?</span></font></blockquote><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>My current OpenVZ setup has LVM involved.<br><br>I want to be able to use simfs based storage on an underlaying LVM volume.<br><br>And I want to be able to setup KVM based VMs that have a LVM based disk, too.<br><br>In best case KVM VMs can be created from a template, as with the container VMs.<br><br><br>Regards<br> Volker</span><br style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Vladimir Porokhov</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 03.06.16, 18:04, "Scott Dowdle" <<a href="mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org">users-bounces@openvz.org</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:dowdle@montanalinux.org">dowdle@montanalinux.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Greetings,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>----- Original Message -----</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we need to prepare a new setup composed of a few nodes (probably 5)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for August this year.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If I interpreted the wii page correctly, the next VZ7 release will be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a stable one. As you can imagine, we're very tempted to wait for it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>instead of deploying on OpenVZ and then migrating everything some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>months later.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The only problem is... we have no idea at all about the actual</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>planned release date.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Can anyone shed some light on this? Even knowing the quarter (say,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Q3 vs Q4) would be of great help to us.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(Disclaimer: I realise there are many factors involved, that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>stability comes at a price of a long(er) development time and I'm</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not asking for any commitment to an actual date. Just a few hints</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>on 'how close we are' would be more than enough :-)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't know the answer... as a user and not a dev... but I would say deploy OpenVZ Legacy now... and when V7 goes GA... test it out... get to know it (or do that with the pre-releases)... and when you feel comfortable with it, migrate the containers from OL to V7... and then you can wipe your OL hosts and turn them into V7 hosts. You'd only really need one spare and then just cycle through them one by one... but I realize I've always operated at a very low scale and there are some really big scale operators out there.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In any event... who is ready to totally convert even on day one of a GA? Who even advises doing so even if it is convenient? I'm fairly confident that the transition from OL to V7 with container migration should be fairly smooth... even without live migration it shouldn't be too much trouble if planned for.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>TYL,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Scott Dowdle</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>704 Church Street</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Belgrade, MT 59714</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(406)388-0827 [home]</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(406)994-3931 [work]</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Users mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Users@openvz.org">Users@openvz.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users">https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Users mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Users@openvz.org">Users@openvz.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users">https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Users mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Users@openvz.org">Users@openvz.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users">https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>sergeyb@</span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>