[Users] Fedora 10 i386/x86_64 default/minimal OS Templatesreleased to contrib

[Michael H. Warfield]

On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 17:15 -0800, Robert Nelson wrote:
> You mean the one that has this on the wiki page?
> 
>     Changes
>         Initial 2.6.26 release: very unstable, not recommended to use

	That's the one.  And, as usual, the wiki is very behind and the
developers are very conservative and their definition of "very unstable"
beats the bejesus out of some people's "stable".  I've build out of git
and been uncomfortable but I've wished they would cut more releases more
often.  They've been very stable for me.  Production release stable.
I've had no heartburn at all at rolling an rpm of one of those into my
production systems.

> Does anyone know what the plan is regarding producing a new 
> "stable/reliable/usable" version of an OpenVZ kernel beyond 2.6.18?

	RedHat 6 is likely to be on a 2.6.26+.  Their view of "stable" seems to
be "blessed on RHEL".

> I thought it was going to be 2.6.24 but it has never transitioned from 
> development.  Now there seems to be this new development kernel based on 
> 2.6.26.

	I would now like to see something on 2.6.27 ASAP.  With some of the
rumblings from a couple other luminaries, that may just be the next
major stability point.

	Bottom line is that if you want the features and you're going to ride
the wave (Fedora) you're going to have to ride those development
kernels.

	Mike

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw at WittsEnd.com>
> To: <users at openvz.org>
> Cc: <mhw at WittsEnd.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Fedora 10 i386/x86_64 default/minimal OS 
> Templatesreleased to contrib
> 
> On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 13:03 -0800, Robert Nelson wrote:
> > Which version of the OpenVZ kernel are you using to run containers built
> > using this template?  I've tried using the 2.6.18 RHEL5 versions but a
> > number of commands fail.  It appears that Fedora 10 isn't compatible with
> > the older kernels.  For example "touch x" results in "touch: setting times
> > of `x': Bad address".  At first I thought it was something wrong with the
> > vzpkg2 templates I created but it also happened with your template.
> 
>  Wow...  I'm not sure I would even expect that to work.  I might expect
> older applications and distros to run on newer kernels (they do strive
> for that direction of backward compatibility) but Fedora 10 is going to
> have the latest apps built for and trying to take advantage of the
> latest kernel features.  I would expect them to get really upset if they
> were stuck on a cranky kernel that's 9 revs back (RHEL 5 == 2.6.18,
> Fedora 10 == 2.6.27).  That's one of the reasons I'm running the latest
> 2.6.26 ovz kernels on all my virtualization engines.  I've had no
> stability problems and it runs all the old images just fine for me.
> 
>  Try them again on 2.6.26-bulgakov.1 and see if they don't run one heck
> of a lot better.
> 
>  Mike
> 
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