[Devel] Re: What can OpenVZ do?
Serge E. Hallyn
serue at us.ibm.com
Fri Mar 13 17:26:56 PDT 2009
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm at xmission.com):
> Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:45:03PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>
> >> * Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:32AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> > > Merging checkpoints instead might give them the incentive to get
> >> > > their act together.
> >> >
> >> > Knowing how much time it takes to beat CPT back into usable shape every time
> >> > big kernel rebase is done, OpenVZ/Virtuozzo have every single damn incentive
> >> > to have CPT mainlined.
> >>
> >> So where is the bottleneck? I suspect the effort in having forward ported
> >> it across 4 major kernel releases in a single year is already larger than
> >> the technical effort it would take to upstream it. Any unreasonable upstream
> >> resistence/passivity you are bumping into?
> >
> > People were busy with netns/containers stuff and OpenVZ/Virtuozzo bugs.
>
> Yes. Getting the namespaces particularly the network namespace finished
> has consumed a lot of work.
>
> Then we have a bunch of people helping with ill conceived patches that seem
> to wear out the patience of people upstream. Al, Greg kh, Linus.
>
> The whole recent ressurection of the question of we should have a clone
> with pid syscall.
/me points
Alexey started it :)
But, Linus asks to start with simple checkpoint/restart patches. Oren's
basic patchset pretty much does that, though, right? Patches 1-7 just
do a basic single task. 8-10 add simple open files. 11, 13 and 14 do
external checkpoint and multiple tasks.
Are these an ok place to start, or do these need to be simplified even
more?
-serge
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