[Devel] Re: RFC: Attaching threads to cgroups is OK?

Hirokazu Takahashi taka at valinux.co.jp
Mon Sep 8 05:47:53 PDT 2008


Hi, Vivek,

> > > > IMHO, optimizing the synchronous path alone would justify the addition
> > > > of io_context in bio. There is more to this though.
> > > > 
> > > > As you point out, it would seem that aio and buffered IO would not
> > > > benefit from caching the io context in the bio itself, but there are
> > > > some subtleties here. Let's consider stacking devices and buffered IO,
> > > > for example. When a bio enters such a device it may get replicated
> > > > several times and, depending on the topology, some other derivative bios
> > > > will be created (RAID1 and parity configurations come to mind,
> > > > respectively). The problem here is that the memory allocated for the
> > > > newly created bios will be owned by the corresponding dm or md kernel
> > > > thread, not the originator of the bio we are replicating or calculating
> > > > the parity bits from.
> > > 
> > > I've already tried implementing this feature. Will you take a look
> > > at the thread whose subject is "I/O context inheritance" in
> > > http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0804.2/index.html#2857.
> > 
> > When I started to implement this, I would make each bio have two
> > io_contexts -- per-process io_context which had ionice and
> > and per-cgroup io_context.
> > 
> 
> Hi Hirokazu,
> 
> I had a question. Why are we trying to create another io_context or why
> are we trying to mix up existing io_context (which is per task or per
> thread group) with cgroups?
> 
> To me we just need to know the "cgroup id" to take a specific action with
> a bio. We don't need whole io_context strucutre. So can't we just use
> something like, page->page_cgroup->bio_cgroup->cgrou_id or something like
> that.
> 
> What I mean is that the only thing which we seem to require to differentiate
> between various bio is cgroup id it belongs to and that can be a single
> "unsigned long" stored at appropriate place. Why are we looking at
> creating a full io_context structure and trying to share it among all the
> members of a cgroup?

It is possible if you should only care about dm-ioband.

I just thought the approach that every cgroup should also have its own
io_iocontext was more generic, since both types of io_contexts represent
the contexts of issuers so I think it will be good if these can be
handled in the same way. I think it will make it easier for other
functionalities of the kernel to use this feature.

But we may have to think it over again if it has become clear that
this approach costs a lot.

Thanks
Hirokazu Takahashi.

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