[Devel] Re: [BIG RFC] Filesystem-based checkpoint
Serge E. Hallyn
serue at us.ibm.com
Thu Oct 30 13:03:34 PDT 2008
Quoting Oren Laadan (orenl at cs.columbia.edu):
>
>
> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Oren Laadan (orenl at cs.columbia.edu):
> > What Dave is suggesting (as I understand it) is just changing the way
> > the data is shipped between kernel and user-space. But to continue with
> > sys_checkpoint() and sys_restart(). So I think it's a less fundamental
> > change than you are thinking.
>
> Probably true, if you ignore the tree he used to illustrate the idea :o
> If we agree on the 'blob' (or nearly 'blob') approach, he should suggest
> to export a single file (or one file per task, but that's _it_).
Well no. I'm saying that the problem with cryo was that you had to use
tons of different APIs - and introduce a few new ones - to grab info
about various resources using their own API. Yes Dave looks to be
making you grab all the info in fine-grained pieces through individual
files, but each bit of info is consumed using the exact same API.
> Can you comment on point 3, that is --
>
> 3. Your approach doesn't play well with what I call "checkpoint that
> involves self". This term refers to a process that checkpoints itself
> (and only itself), or to a process that attempts to checkpoint its own
> container. In both cases, there is no other entity that will read the
> data from the file system while the caller is blocked.
This is where I seem to recall Dave mentioning some crazy scheme where
the task would clone itself and have its clone do the pulling.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not sure what Dave's intentions are, but I
agree with you that we should keep working on pushing your patchset.
If we get a nack based on the set_fs() stuff then we know to go with
Dave's approach (or some other), otherwise Dave can keep pursuing his
idea in his sandbox. But I do think his idea is cool. Not all cool
ideas end up being workable, so we'll see...
/me now goes to try lxc-checkpoint with Oren's patches.
-serge
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