[Devel] Re: [RFD][PATCH] memcg: Move Usage at Task Move

Paul Menage menage at google.com
Wed Jun 11 01:04:14 PDT 2008


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:45 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu at jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> Is it really such a big deal if we don't transfer the page ownerships
>> to the new cgroup? As this thread has shown, it's a fairly painful
>> operation to support. It would be good to have some concrete examples
>> of cases where this is needed.
>>
> When we moves a process with XXXG bytes of memory, we need "move" obviously.

That's not a concrete example, it's an assertion :-)

>
> I think there is a case that system administrator decides to create _new_
> cgroup to isolate some swappy job for maintaining the system.
> (I never be able to say that never happens.)

OK, that seems like a reasonable case - i.e. when an existing cgroup
is deliberately split into two.

An alternative way to support that would be to do nothing at move
time, but provide a "pull_usage" control file that would slurp any
pages in any mm in the cgroup into the cgroup.
>> >
>> > One reasone is that I think a typical usage of memory controller is
>> > fork()->move->exec(). (by libcg ?) and exec() will flush the all usage.
>>
>> Exactly - this is a good reason *not* to implement move - because then
>> you drag all the usage of the middleware daemon into the new cgroup.
>>
> Yes but this is one of the usage of cgroup. In general, system admin can
> use this for limiting memory on his own decision.
>

Sorry, your last sentence doesn't make sense to me in this context.

If the common mode for middleware starting a new cgroup is fork() /
move / exec() then after the fork(), the child will be sharing pages
with the main daemon process. So the move will pull all the daemon's
memory into the new cgroup

> yes. but, at first, I'll try no-rollback approach.
> And can I move memory resource controller's subsys_id to the last for now ?
>

That's probably fine for experimentation, but it wouldn't be something
we'd want to commit to -mm or mainline.

Paul
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