[Devel] Re: memrlimit controller merge to mainline

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki kamezawa.hiroyu at jp.fujitsu.com
Tue Jul 29 19:52:26 PDT 2008


On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:17:19 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu at jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:16:17 +0100 (BST)
> Hugh Dickins <hugh at veritas.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:46:45 +0100 (BST)
> > > Hugh Dickins <hugh at veritas.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > IIRC Rik expressed the same by pointing out that a cgroup at its
> > > > swap limit would then be forced to grow in mem (until it hits its
> > > > mem limit): so controlling the less precious resource would increase
> > > > pressure on the more precious resource.  (Actually, that probably
> > > > bears little relation to what he said - sorry, Rik!)  I don't recall
> > > > what answer he got, perhaps I'd be persuaded if I heard it again.
> > > > 
> > > Added Nishimura to CC.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, from user point of view, both of
> > >  - having 2 controls as mem controller + swap controller
> > >  - mem + swap controller
> > > doesn't have much difference. The users will use as they like.
> > 
> > I'm not suggesting either one of those alternatives.
> > 
> > I'm suggesting we have a mem controller (the thing we already have)
> > and a mem+swap controller (which we don't yet have: a controller
> > for the total mem+swap of a cgroup); the mem+swap controller likely
> > making use of much that is in the mem controller, as Paul has said.
> > 
> Ah, what mem+swap controller means is limitiing mem+swap by 'a' limit ?
> It's a choice for me. From view of global LRU management, it's better.
> If we can avoid an accident that the swap is fully used by some silly program,
> anything is ok to me.
> 
Hmm.

mem+swap controller means a shrink to memory resource controller 
(try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages()) should drop only file caches.
(Because kick-out-to-swap will never changes the usage.)

right ? only global-lru can make a swap.
maybe I can add optimization to do this. Hmm. I should see how OOM works
under some situation.

Thanks,
-Kame





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