[Devel] Re: A consideration on memory controller.

[KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:58:52 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir at linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> > If memory controller is used, we can limit maximum usage of memory per
> > applications. Workload can be isolated per cgroup.
> > This is good one progress. But maybe I need more features for my purpose....maybe.
> > 
> > One consideration is...
> > Now, memory controller can tamper LRU/relcaim handling but cannot do
> > free memory. For guaranteing amount of usable memory for an applicatons,
> > using VM is the best answer.
> 
> This is a hard question? In the past it has been suggested that we use
> hard limits to implement guarantees. Once we have the kernel memory
> controller, guarantees might be easier to implement (we need account
> for non-reclaimable resources)
> 
yes, I'm looking forward to see the kernel memory controller.
But maybe guarantee amount of *immediately usable* memory (like mempool)
for cgroup is not the same issue as to guarantee free-cache for kernel 
memory.


> 
> But sometimes it can't be used. 
> > I'm wondering whether we can add free-memory controller or not. It will
> > gather free memory for some cgroup with low <-> min <-> high + page-order setup
> > and work as buffer within cgroup <-> system workload.
> > But I'm not sure this idea is good or not ;)
> > 
> 
> I think it might be good to explore it more. The other idea is to
> limit a soft-limit, such that memory is only reclaimed when there is
> memory pressure.
> 
thanks, I'll dig more.

> >  - back ground reclaim (Maybe it's better to wait for RvR's LRU set merge.)
> >  - guarantee some amount of memory not to be reclaimed by global LRU.
> >  - per cgroup swappiness.
> >  - swap controller. (limit swap usage...maybe independet from memory
> >                      controller.)
> > 
> > belows are no patch, no plan topics.
> >  - limit amount of mlock.
> >  - limit amount of hugepages.
> >  - more parameters for page reclaim.
> >  - balancing on NUMA (if we can find good algorythm...)
> >  - dirty_ratio per cgroup.
> > 
> >  - multi-level memory controller.
> > 
> We might also need to consider the following
> 
> 1. Implementation of shares
> 2. Implementation of virtual memory limit
limiting virtual memory like vm.overcommit_memory ?


> > If you have feature-lists against memory controller, I'd like to see.
> > 
> > 
> > Note:
> > In last year, limit size of page-cache was posted but denied. It is said that
> > free memory is bad memory. Now, I never think anything just for limitig
> > page-cache will be accepted.
> > 
> 
> This topic needs more discussion, we have some form of page-cache
> control built into the memory controller.
> 
Hmm. ok. I'looking forward to see.

Regards,
-Kame

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