[Devel] Re: [patch 0/8] unprivileged mount syscall
Miklos Szeredi
miklos at szeredi.hu
Fri Apr 13 07:05:16 PDT 2007
> > Thinking a bit more about this, I'm quite sure most users wouldn't
> > even want private namespaces. It would be enough to
> >
> > chroot /share/$USER
> >
> > and be done with it.
> >
> > Private namespaces are only good for keeping a bunch of mounts
> > referenced by a group of processes. But my guess is, that the natural
> > behavior for users is to see a persistent set of mounts.
> >
> > If for example they mount something on a remote machine, then log out
> > from the ssh session and later log back in, they would want to see
> > their previous mount still there.
> >
> > Miklos
>
> Agreed on desired behavior, but not on chroot sufficing. It actually
> sounds like you want exactly what was outlined in the OLS paper.
>
> Users still need to be in a different mounts namespace from the admin
> user so long as we consider the deluser and backup problems
I don't think it matters, because /share/$USER duplicates a part or
the whole of the user's namespace.
So backup would have to be taught about /share anyway, and deluser
operates on /home/$USER and not on /share/*, so there shouldn't be any
problem.
There's actually very little difference between rbind+chroot, and
CLONE_NEWNS. In a private namespace:
1) when no more processes reference the namespace, the tree will be
disbanded
2) the mount tree won't be accessible from outside the namespace
Wanting a persistent namespace contradicts 1).
Wanting a per-user (as opposed to per-session) namespace contradicts
2). The namespace _has_ to be accessible from outside, so that a new
session can access/copy it.
So both requirements point to the rbind/chroot solution.
Miklos
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