[Devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup

[Dave Hansen]

On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 18:05 +0300, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
> > "tsk->owner_container"  That makes it sound like a pointer to the "task
> > owner's container".  How about "owning_container"?  The "container
> > owning this task".  Or, maybe just "container"?
> This is why I don't like "container" name.

I worry that using something like "vps" obfuscates the real meaning a
bit.  The reason that "owner_vps" doesn't sound weird is that people, by
default, usually won't understand what a "vps" is.

(if you like acronyms a lot, I'm sure I can find a job for you at IBM or
in the US military :)

> Please, also note, in OpenVZ we have 2 pointers on task_struct:
> One is owner of a task (owner_env), 2nd is a current context (exec_env). 
> exec_env pointer is used to avoid adding of additional argument to all 
> the functions where current context is required.

That makes sense.  However, are there many cases in the kernel where a
task ends up doing something temporary like this:

	tsk->exec_vnc = bar;
	do_something_here(task);
	tsk->exec_vnc = foo;

If that's the case very often, we probably want to change the APIs, just
to make the common action explicit.  If it never happens, or is a
rarity, I think it should be just fine.

> > Any particular reason for the "u32 id" in the vps_info struct as opposed
> > to one of the more generic types?  Do we want to abstract this one in
> > the same way we do pid_t?
> VPS ID is passed to/from user space APIs and when you have a cluster 
> with different archs and VPSs it is better to have something in common 
> for managing this.

I guess it does keep you from running into issues with mixing 32 and
64-bit processes.  But, haven't we solved those problems already?  Is it
just a pain?

> > Lastly, is this a place for krefs?  I don't see a real need for a
> > destructor yet, but the idea is fresh in my mind.
> I don't see much need for krefs, do you?
> In OpenVZ we have 2-level refcounting (mentioned recently by Linus as in 
> mm). Process counter is used to decide when container should 
> collapse/cleanuped and real refcounter is used to free the structures 
> which can be referenced from somewhere else.

It sounds to me like anything that needs to have an action taken when a
refcount reaches zero is a good candidate for a kref.  Both of those
uses sound like they need that.  Probably not too big of a deal, though.

-- Dave